The Community Guidelines & Rules and Moderator Rules of Conduct

Mithrandirxx

The Administration Mage
Staff member
As I have done in the past, I would like everyones' thoughts on the rule sets we have here any ideas on how to improve them or how to change them to be more fitting to the community in General. So please take a look at them and see what alterations you all believe may need to be made. So far the only alterations I can come up with is changing the word Moderator to Staff or some variation of staff, in most cases that are not directly attributable to Moderators specifically.
 
Have there been any changes recently? If so, could you please point them out?

Otherwise, I say we scrap them all and adopt the philosophy of complete and utter anarchy.

No? Alright, but you don't know what you are missing.

Lately, I've seen a lot of stuff that seemed of a more artistic nature that should be in the chronicles, but ends up getting posted somewhere else. Maybe we could add something in that makes our stance more firm on that. I don't really think its necessary, but if you are looking for changes, thats the only one I can think of.
 
There have been no changes since they were put in place in June of 06. Now then as for Anarchy I believe I have seen variations of that and it never works all that well. Also in regards to stuff being misposted, or placed in the wrong forum or what have you, It seems that this is really not a rule violation when it has happened but more of an honest mistake. I am willing to accept people making mistakes from time to time. Let alone how do we stand firm on that other than seemingly going out of our way to harrass members who happen to be artisticly inclined ?

Madi, while I am trying to understand your stance on this the alteration I am thinking of will not take the rules away from the moderators or anything of that nature, however it will prevent the loophole of I'm a Admin those don't apply to me or what have you. Its a simple cover all application. For instance the first draft I looked at in my archieves was already set up to state more towards staff, but I believe I caved on the point to stop one of the original draft writers from complaining I was not taking any of his suggestions. For example here is the updated draft I have been working on.

Staff Rules of Conduct

1) Actions by the Staff are to be fair, civil, unbiased and according to the following rules of Staff conduct, and the Community Rules and Guidelines. All members of the staff are expected to treat all members of the community with patience and civility.​

2) At no time may a Staff member utilize their position for influence or fear to control a situation for personal gain or amusement.​


3) Altering of someone's profile shall only be done if one of the following circumstances comes up.
A. The Staff member is requested to by the owner of said profile.​

B. The profile breaks any of the general community rules.​
C. The owner of the profile has earned a special title or addition to their profile that is not standard.​
After an alteration has been made, a post on the Moderation board explaining the alteration should be made.
4) Staff members are to deal with the majority of problems that arise in the area that they operate only. In any area outside of their charge, a member of staff is simply another member. If an issue comes up that the staff member feels they cannot sufficiently deal with, they are to inform a Senior Moderator, or an Administrator, at which point the senior moderator/administrator will give their opinions and offer advice, if the staff member still cannot make a decision they shall hand off the problem to the next highest person in the chain of command.​


5) Complaints can be issued by the board members, if they feel the need. If complaints are issued and found to be true, a Member of staff can be removed from their position, and possibly banned from the board depending on the severity of the complaint. The administration reserves the right, at any time, to remove staff members from power with prior notice.​

6) Whenever a thread needs to be locked, removed, or deleted the moderator should inform the administration via the minor moderation thread. An offenses severity is decided by the moderator of the section in which the offense takes place. A verbal warning/reprimand is mandated to be sent either via private message or upon the board this too needs to be reported so that multiple reprimands are not sent. A second offense is treated as a new offense but not a continuation of the first, meaning simply that if they have screwed up elsewhere this is not connected and is to be treated as a separate incident, providing the offenses are not so severe as to warrant immediate Administrative intervention.​

7) A member of staff is to use common sense in their judgments of minor and major offenses. If in doubt the staff should always ask a fellow staff member or an administrator for their take on the situation.​

8) The Staff are encouraged to interact with the community and its members in any form of Role play that suits their own style.​


Moderator Duties

The job of a Moderator is to maintain a level of order to the forums for which they were given charge. This includes locking, removal, deletion of off-topic posts, improper content, warning a member when they are doing something that is considered inappropriate in the forums. Another aspect of the Moderators job includes imposing the community rules and guidelines upon their forum. Lastly and most importantly the Moderator is to help members with anything on the board that does not break the Staff Rules of Conduct or the Community Rules & Guidelines.​

When removing a post from a forum that has some value, but was posted in the wrong forum said post is to be transferred to the appropriate forum that fits the content of the offending post. As well a warning for posting in the wrong area is not mandated but encouraged to help members learn where certain types of posts are to be placed.​

When a moderator comes across a post that holds no value to the community in any form i.e. Spam (porn/medicine/casino site, offending pictures, outright flaming, or anything of similar nature) the post is to be deleted or locked. In cases where the post is offensive in nature to all parties visiting the site, the post is to be copied and placed in the Moderator action archive where the Admin or Senior Moderator shall view the offending post and decide on alternative actions for the original poster i.e. banning.​

When a moderator comes into a flaming match that has erupted from a productive discussion or debate, then the action of locking the thread or deleting the flaming posts is up to the Moderator's discretion.​


Senior Moderator Duties


The Job of the Senior Moderator is to check on the work of the moderators and make sure they are doing their jobs properly, as well as maintaining greater control over the boards by clearing out improper content where and when a Moderator cannot or has not done so.​



The Staff Rules of Conduct, and Moderator Duties & Senior Moderator Duties.​

Written on June 28th, 2006 by​

Rhysis, Ullery, Mithrandirxx,and NoReasontoRegister.

Revised on April 2, 2007
 
Lately, I've seen a lot of stuff that seemed of a more artistic nature that should be in the chronicles, but ends up getting posted somewhere else. Maybe we could add something in that makes our stance more firm on that. I don't really think its necessary, but if you are looking for changes, thats the only one I can think of.

Perhaps moving the Test Tube as a Sub Board of Chronicles would help? Also, make a note on the Pic thread that it is for sharing photos only and direct them to the 'other' areas for sharing graphics or testing sigs/avas.
 
Well First come first serve I suppose. Charm, while I like that idea the problem that I see with the movement of the test tube to a sub forum means it would be a tad harder for new members to locate and test thier signatures/Avatars.

SJ, while your comment is amusing it's not required here, this is to be a serious topic, and posting off topic with in it is not helpful.
 
In all honesty, I personally don't see where members are posting their pics and such in the wrong places. I was merely making suggestions based on SJ's comment.

The only thing I ever noticed posted in the wrong place, maybe, was graphics in the the 'Picture' thread. It's possible the person mainly wanted to share that image with everyone for what ever reason, perhaps making a 'more' detailed description on that thread would help.

The test tube I do believe is being used properly. Just because someone doesn't state they are testing a Sig/ava doesn't mean thats not what they are doing, some are just more creative in their wording.

Though, within the USERS CP, the option to view your Sig is within it so the need to post a test thread really isn't necessary and doing away with the test tube all together is an option.
If a person wanted members input on their work that very well can be done in chronicles...
 
SJ, while your comment is amusing it's not required here, this is to be a serious topic, and posting off topic with in it is not helpful.

I was posting seriously. Allow me to explain...

I was able to think of 5 stupid jokes about the naming convention you were using without even putting effort into it. I imagine a few people could probably do better. In the interest of maintaining our high level of maturity, as far as the rules are concerned, and in maintaining the dignity of the people who work for us, you may want to consider getting rid of the references to staff.

Charm, I don't think its a problem large enough to merit that kind of change. Its such a rare occurance, I didn't even really want to mention it. I only did so because Mith was asking about changes.

The only changes I've seen here are cosmetic. I don't think we really need any changes at all to what already exists.
 
Understandable. I was merely offering suggestions, if it isn't a problem then just ignore my post *smiles*
 
I really am not sure where to begin at this moment, Sj the Staff jokes I must admit seem a little low brow for our community. Although the same jokes could be made over the words member, comes, do, Job, flaming, post, position etc... Although as the years have far passed into memory that Bevis and Buthead ruled the world perhaps they will return here and then we can handle that issue. The Point I am referring too...there's another one, point heh heh...Anyhow, The cosmetic changes you saw are one of two alterations to that rule set I did, I added an addendum to how a moderator deal with and reports their handling of a situation, something we dealt with at the end of last year with multiple Mods and Admins all sending letters to one member because no one knew that the other sent anything till after the fact.

While the changes may appear cosmetic they do make the rules more applicable to all members of staff not just Moderators as the case could be made that the rules only apply to those addressed there in, where as Admins and Tech would be exempt via such a loophole.

Charm, I appreciate your ideas and I demand More of them! Concerning the Picture Thread (Peanut Gallery Sticky), I think that perhaps the first post in the thread defines the thread rather well although it is possible that perhaps it needs more sub text in the title bar.
 
I have a change to suggest.

Perhaps it doesn't need to be a rule, so much as a general policy.

Don't ask for general suggestions for changes to rules. If you have a specific item that you think needs addressing (such as multiple notices issued to a user), bring that item up and have it addressed. I'm suddenly reminded of politics where someone makes a broad proposal, and everything looks good, but then 5 seconds before its time to vote, one little extra paragraph gets added and it gets passed into law without anyone knowing about it or reading it.

Don't try to sneak rule changes in the back door. Be up front about it.

Could you perhaps Highlight exactly what changes are being proposed, so I don't accidentally miss something while I'm trying to peruse through the new list?
 
On The 'Staff Rules of Conduct', it only shows the Moderator/Senior Moderator Duties. I think there should Also be something stating the Administrators, Tech Admins, and Good Will Ambassadors duties as well.
 
Well general policy would still need to be mandated, let alone that if its a set of rules it allows a person to know what they can and cannot do in said positions where as general policy allows a lot more leeway. As for asking for suggestions to alter and check the rules it has a dual benefit; one it makes sure the community is alright with the rules as they are, and two it makes sure the community keeps informed of the rules by reading them to see if they need to be worked over. Its a form of participatory government.

As for sneaking something in, that can happen when someone is working on looking over the rules in a text pad and adding addendums and alterations to make it fit better and then post what they have on hand as the Alterations they have thought of. Also I would not have pointed out the alteration if I wanted to sneak it in. Now then the changes have been Highlighted the first change of Moderators to Members of Staff or staff member or what not in dark blue, the addendum of the notification issue in light blue.

Charm, I agree with you one hundred percent, but as to how to address the Admin and tech duties specifically with out giving myself too much freedom and SJ and Ceros too little it would be a bad idea for me to write them. I asked Rhysis to try writing them Via messenger two days ago but I assume he is out of communication range.

Concerning the good will Ambassador issue it was an Idea, that failed miserably, and one That I shall not instate again, but I could write up that job description in a single sentence.

: The Goodwill Ambassadors duties are to be an intermediary between a hostile staff member and a member of the community to ensure just treatment of said member of the community.
 
Maybe just a " touch up " of sorts to the rules. Make them a bit more modern and up to date? Just a suggestion anyhow. If there is anything I can help with, let me know.
 
The Goodwill did not fail miserably. It was the user that failed. Things were going ok till he decided to pull his behaviour upon another user resulting in him getting banned. Once he was banned I did send him an e-mail and he has not responded since. I have not been told to address them anymore.

{slaps Mith and a planetary body} HUMPH!!!!!!!
 
I said Mod not Staff because I've heard enough Staff jokes to last me a life time. At work I am part of the Staff, I'd rather veiw this place as seeing me a little more then a worker cog..eh, if I try to explain this I'll only ramble and confuse everyone...It's your hammer to weild, do what you think is correct Mith.
 
For some reason, I've only just now seen this thread while drinking. Maybe because I am bored.

Let me 'weigh in' on this discussion. The whole thing is pretty academic in nature. KISS - keep it simple, stupid. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Those sort of things.

I think the rules are just fine as they are. Perhaps the only helpful comment on here is the suggestion to add a "Please make sure your posts are posted under the correct topic. For example, if you wanted to post something artistic in nature, post it in the Chronicles section."

Mod duties are supposed to be well defined. I actually on't really care too much about iron clad mod rules, as opposed to iron clad staff rules. As to changing the mod to staff soley for the purpose of limiting yourself - don't. Administraightors are supposed to have extraordinary powers that surpass those of the rest of the staff. Why would you want to bring yourself down to their level?

I picked you to head the enforcement side of administration because I knew you had a good head on your shoulders. SJ and I are just here for the tech side. That is that.

Things are good like they are. And if anything, use "Administration Team" or something instead of "Staff".
 
*has to create a new word now to preserve his ego of being superior to Ceros*

Adminigaytors.... That is Mith's official new title. So says I.

While I agree with Ceros that the existing rules don't need to be changed, I may have to disagree with him about administrators. The Administrators should NOT be all-powerful godlike beings. You didn't exactly say that, but it seemed to be implied somehow.

Anyways, there needs to be some way to correct a mistake made by an administrator. Some way to overrule them. Maybe a 2/3rds majority vote from the moderators, or a unanimous vote by the senior mods?

I don't see any reason why that means clumping administrators in with the rest of the moderators though. They definitely should be a separate entity.
 
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