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DerangedPsycho

DerangedPsycho

One step at a time. . .
It has come to my attention that the number of users using Ayenee.Org is considerably low in comparison to the days when the user created chat rooms through yahoo were still available.

There must be something we can do about this. Perhaps we should enter Ayenee.Org into some webrings, get it out there so that we can increase our member base and overall increase the activity and plot productions.

Just a suggestion, I'm sure there are other options that would work better.

Perhaps, we as a whole, can re-locate to a different chat provider. There's plenty of largely used public java-based chat rooms out there. Or at least, play there and spread the word about Ayenee if there isn't already some sort of established 'land' or 'name' for the place the characters played there call home.

Maybe we should get together and dream up some complicated plot line with a GM or GMs to keep the story rolling and flowing along smoothly. Somewhat combat oriented for those that get more into combat RP, yet subtle enough that those that do not wish to fight can still partake and reap some enjoyment out of it.

Ya know, something for new people to join into.. to make them want to join and to stick around. Something that doesn't seem to be focused on a couple or small group of people. Something big enough that there is a place, time and side dialogue plot for everyone.

Don't ask me, I'm just a patron, and I highly doubt I could dream up anything of that magnitude, but a suggestion I'm sure one of you has what it takes to make happen and put into motion.
 
This is something I've been wrestling with for some time now. I can't help but think that this site is dying. Its been in a slow decay ever since yahoo shut down our chat rooms. Mith and I were talking about our population earlier actually.

I think that the site may be doomed to death. I oftentimes wonder if we shouldn't just close the doors and tell everyone to join ayenee.com or something else. I don't bring it up though because I worry that if I display a negative attitude, it will have negative side effects. I don't want to give up on this place, but I wonder if a line needs to be drawn somewhere. I feel like we've got a person in a vegatative state, and we are keeping it on life support for selfish reasons, rather than letting them die in peace. Those of us who are here... I don't know many that still go into chat to actively RP. I know I haven't in so long, I can't remember the last time.

Anyways, Mith believes that we are gaining people at a rate of 2 per day. He'll be here soon to post happy-go-lucky things, that prove i'm just a nay-sayer with a bad attitude.
 
I seem to see this problem more and more these days. Certainly new blood and old blood both help this community thrive. However lacking one or the other does not mean death by any means. Stagnation is always going to be a factor, simply put even with influence in a chat based system people are swayed one way or another, and occasionally reality interferes. Yes we can recruit new members; yes we can create massive plots with more openings than buck-shot round fired from three inches. Now then holding to this concept there is a simple point that should be made. This site is technically not completely launched yet. As I said the other site, which still seems to have a few visitors, is still active until the seventh of November.

Does that mean that we will get more members when the temp board is silenced? I honestly don't know, yet if we have members who are role playing I don't care. We are a site for Rp not numbers of users. This was a hang up on the former Ayenee.org site we cared more about numbers than RP and watched as the boards wilted into hardly what could have been called an RP Community. New Users are welcome in almost every plot currently on the boards with no exceptions that I can currently think of. As for new plots you inform me of them and what kind of support you want and I'll set you up with what you ask for if it’s in my power to do so.

Now Deranged I know full and well your intentions are good concerning this whole thing, and I am thankful that you worry. The best advertisement is RP, here on the boards or in Yahoo chat or any other chat rooms that play host to role players. The Web-ring thing I have been thinking about however the issue with that is simply where and who to link with. I already wish to have a link between ourselves and Ayenee.com. As for the rest of the Rp sites out there it would be a good idea for us to talk to them about a banner exchange or a web-ring kind of thing. As for new plots and Ideas if we cannot count on the patrons who can we count on?

Now then this community’s favorite topic over the time I have been anything more than a common user seemed to always be about its own demise. Honestly fuck that. Lets all talk about how we are going to perish sounds like a waste of time. Communities rise and fall; it happens. Better to do something for the community’s betterment than to sit back screaming the end is near. Every time this whole bastard argument comes up I swear I want to throttle someone. The best way to get new members is to give them a reason to come here that would be through RP.

SJ you seem to think me an optimist, yet I am anything but. I simply look to the flaws of the past to learn what went wrong before and how to fix those issues. One point is killing something before its dead like that which was done to the assassins RP on the Ayenee.org. It didn't meet the quota for numbers. Sorry but Rp is what matters, numbers do not and should not rule an RP community. Oh and for my fuzzy outlook when you and I spoke this afternoon SJ we had eighteen members, the number just went up.

Now I do hope I have spent enough time arguing this. I have a few things to do, one of which is to finish a map for a RP campaign which is nearly two months behind schedule. Excuse me, and my less than polished linguistic skills.
 
(gazes quietly at sj)

I certainly am surprised to say the least, to hear those words from you of all other roleplayers sj.

If Travis English were still with us, he'd continue to fight the fight that we were introduced to.

Granted he, and an appropiate number of people that I terribly miss, aren't here either. However, at the same point, granted I haven't been into those yahoo chat rooms in a very long time, (Mostly now days the reason being that I'm in classes two days a week and a volunteer postion one day per week, making three days I have no time to use towards yahoo chat!)

Anyway getting back to the point. If anyone ever does consider killing this place off, then allow not only a fellow roleplayer, but someone who's been through that kind of thing before, inform you of something very critically important.

If you do shut down and toss people away, not only will they find new homes or(in some of my experiences as the case became) they will create their own homes. But you lose a very valuable piece of yourself in the process.
To lose a place you've hanged out for long periods of time, hurts immensly.
Sometimes it makes you question why the heck you keep roleplaying in the first place.
AND most importantly of all, it affects your mental and regular state of being in a way that makes you.....falter.

I had such a thing happen to me on three seperate occassions.
The third of which....(looks down quietly) the third of which I've yet to find those who I roleplayed with for seven years.

Now, on the other hand, losing touch with the shadowspirit clan as I did when my net went ka-boom!
That hurts just as bad because I was really, really, involved in that roleplay.
That roleplay, was something that comes once every few flippin hundred years.
The texture was just up my alley and the characters, not only were fun to interact with, but they were at the same time, teaching me valuable lessons for rl basis!

So I will hear no talk of defeat and surrender and throwing in the towel!
Not anymore!
I've heard it just about as many times as I can stand hearing it without raising my hammer of faith and saying in my own words.
WE SHALL NOT FALL!
 
I can totally understand the want to give up, especially when so much time and effort was put into re-creating this forum and then it seems to the one/s who did that it was all in vain.
I have dealt with the owner of another forum who would say the same thing time after time. He would spend many a long hour adding new features, changing the style/looks, and creating such things he felt the members would want, All in the name of keeping the forum alive. But, what it comes down to is one thing that attracts members...activity.
Be it IC or OOC, it is still active and thats what will bring in new members and keep the old ones around. Granted there are the faithful who will stick around regardless, but in time they too will finally move on when there is nothing to stay for.

We all, who wish to see Org survive have to do all we can to make sure it happens. We need to advertise, we need to be active. With every visit we need to post, IC or OCC, anything that shows signs of life here.

Org is, to me anyways, the founding fathers of RP forums.
 
I've been saying this since the first time I was a Senior Mod, the way to RETAIN new members is for there to be alot of active RP here that they'll want to get involved in.
 
Ullery said:
If you do shut down and toss people away, not only will they find new homes or(in some of my experiences as the case became) they will create their own homes. But you lose a very valuable piece of yourself in the process.
To lose a place you've hanged out for long periods of time, hurts immensly.
Sometimes it makes you question why the heck you keep roleplaying in the first place.
AND most importantly of all, it affects your mental and regular state of being in a way that makes you.....falter.
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Ullery, I've got to say that I've never felt the same as you have. I have foricbly had to leave communities due to outside measures (no internet...) and have never really felt like I "lost a valuable piece of myself."
Heh, course, I've never cared as much about "communities" as much as other people.
When I was moderator of the old .org forums, I had my status threatened with being stripped from me because I never participated in any of the RP going on in the forums, I rarely participated in any board other than the techboard, even when its activity went from lingering to flat out decomposed.

So, I guess that might be a reason I have never felt such as you: I don't hold ties with a community. I am there (or here) not for the need of a community, but for a want of information or rp.

So in truth, losing the kellindel sites, original .org, and all the rest matter little to me. I have fond memories of...sitpowerup was it? Back when the tech board was active, with people asking questions since technology was a recent concept in chat. But now the newness is faded, and everyone thinks they know everything there is to know...

My opinion: Kill it, Keep it. Abuse it. Go nuts. But remember that a good chunk of your "member count" is going to be absentees, lurkers, and secondary accounts.
 
I still brave yahells chat rooms for rp and while there I post the link to Ayenee in hopes some will wander through our gates.
Ayenee may fade out some, but it will never truly die.
That's all I'm going to say on this subject...Carry on ward people
 
*gazes quietly at oscuro*

Perhaps, it is time for me to tell a little....story to you all, one that....might...better explain my words.

See, a long time ago when I was "younger"
And I was actually "chatting" into roleplay ventures for the very first time.
I was abruptly met by a fellow roleplayer, who's name shall remain silent for protective purposes.
Anyway, this fellow roleplayer, after only a mere, small conversation, managed to convince me to join this quaint little place.
This place, then, and always afterwards, was called "Everlasting Hearts Territory."

This place was a world of creatures of stunning detail and amazing characteristics.
Wolves, dragons, unicorns. Those were the primary basis for the roleplaying community itself.
Both on chat and in board forum basis.

It was a place that I called home for a very long time, until the owner closed it and forced us all to create a new-version of it.
It was later-reintroduced by one of the original members of the flock.

Now, the wolves had seperate clans, The Killer clan, the changers, and the deathmakers.
Deathmakers being evil, killers being good, and changers being able to change wicked to good.

The unicorn flocks were merry, and the dragons(back then) were downright fun as heck!

What I'm driving at, is that not everybody who roleplays is ever going to have the same precise perspective, that I do towards roleplay or community roleplays in general.
What makes me Ullery, is that I do care, and that I do "feel" something towards these places, these halls of yonder light and darkness.
I feel because I keep a part of myself "Within" these hallowed walls.

I don't expect a whole lot(or any) of you to be able to respond quite the way I do. Because if you did, you'd probably be my doppleganger in disguise(joke)

Anyway, my point is this, we each watch and view roleplaying stuff through different viewpoints and ideals and thoughts, we react accordingly.
In mostly any roleplay I have ever donned, I have always (at the very least) tryed to put a piece of myself into the actual character to make it feel and seem more lifelike.

We're not all going to react the same way, because if we did, we'd be boring.
No, we are going to react in different ways, like Oscuro there.

Oscuro made a valliant and very real down to earth factual point.
And now, I in turn am returning the favor to enlighten him further upon my perspective.

Roleplay lives, as we live.
It...in an essence, has feelings such as we do.
Granted it isn't quite "as" human as we are.
But the spirit, the overall spirit, is hidden there, deep beneath the depths of the darkness for one and all to see.
I'm nearly positive that Madi at the very least knows quite what I'm talking about.
 
I have been a part of forum and roleplay communities for some time now and I have almost forgotten the meaning of the words 'give up'. On Dragonskrypt DERP I have as both a full member and a moderator the highs of bustling activity and the aspects of somewhat lower activity. However, during all that time, we have NEVER thrown in the towel or said it wasn't worth going on. There is some activity on the forums and though it may be miniscule compared to places such as Com(where I am also a moderator), there is a bit of OOC activity and IC activity going on, and thats all that matters to me with a smaller community! There was talk of closing DERP down but an outcry by members caused it to upgrade and reform itself...now we have members trickling in slowly.

Now, back on topic, the closure of Yahoo Roleplaying rooms does, from my observations, seem to have considerably lowered activity around here and member numbers. However, I see potential for this website, despite the lack of members(which will be hopefully rectified in future) and I can foresee member numbers growing providing that we present quality roleplay that people would get interested in and a bit of OOC activity here and there. We really want negativity as the go as regards to Org, we want the go-in...the positive! If Org is generally pessimistic about its future, then that is not proactive.

I am writing from the perspective of one who posts every now and then here. I really enjoy this little space to roleplay and post...it's like a sanctuary in some ways, where some people can gather around and roleplay away from the hustle and bustle of Com. I like both Org and Com, but Org has a certain charm about it to me.

Raharanor
 
Glad you think we have a charm. We try to make this a friendly place to play with a welcoming approach and the idea that if you're having fun thats what matters.

With the PR side of things out of the way, I think I should just say that as long as there are people RPing here then the site will survive and hopefully grow. I think the new forum for recruiting threads and the like should help to that end as well.
 
I'm glad I could get all of your gears turning. You all have some very good points and I just have to say that I agree with all of you. I was hoping to get the community involved in Org's growth and not just the administration. It's good to see you all care as much about "my second home" as I do.
 
First off, let me just say I am happy to see so many people backing our communitys efforts to get back on our feet. Now then to express my sadness that Deranged has a first home thats not us.:(
 
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